You’re operating under some pretty wild assumptions here and end up arguing in bad faith. I don’t think I want to follow you up the stupid hill you’re getting ready to die on.
Rabble is not a right wing outlet, very much the opposite. The article is not “bad” just because you say it is. And Lorincz signs the article as a member of VOW, Canada’s oldest pacifist feminist group since the 1960s, and as a member of WILPF, a truly venerable international anti-war feminist organization that was first formed in …1915 to protest WW1.
And here you are doing the oldest “red scare” tactic in the books, accusing peaceniks of being traitors. “Saying these things are possible”… What a weasely thing to say. If you want to say something say it.
So go ahead, say your no-no words, I’m well braced.
Any article that says Canadian defense spending is some how a larger risk to our sovereignty then what being said and done by the US president is either willfully misleading, or woefully under informed.
War does not give a fuck if “you’d prefer it didn’t happen”
If we do not become a large enough threat to the Americans, we will be subjugated
Good to see we got past the knee-jerk screams of “traitors”.
Look, I don’t disagree on the principle of Canada developing scary enough hedgehog spikes. The question is how do you do that. IMO, what Ukraine and Iran have both proven is that we are now in the era of drone warfare, where small powers can punch way above their weight by leveraging cheap hardware and applying pressure in the right spots. This actually aligns perfectly with the kind of warfare doctrines that the Canadian forces have traditionally been very good at (semi-guerilla tactics basically).
I would be 100% for a defense posture that prioritizes civil defence, and training the population to resist and fight any kind of US adventurism with drones and guerilla tactics. The great thing about it is that it could also double-use for climate resilience. But I am not convinced that the kind of big defense spending the Liberals are pushing for are in that direction. Instead they are pushing for an export oriented arms industry, that absolutely feeds in a “military keynesianism” kind of escalatory posture.
At the same time, the best way to not lose a war is not fighting one. And I am just not seeing Carney actively working to de-escalate the global situation. For example, what the actual fuck is he doing supporting the war in Iran? What the actual fuck is he doing by insisting on supporting the one major destabilizer in the MENA region, Israel?
EDIT: Oh and the article goes into quite a bit of depth about potential corruption and grift opportunities.
…firstly, I didn’t scream anything, so I am glad we got past the histrionics
I also broadly agree with making more adaptable, modern, flexible, domestic defense and climate developments
Also, its cute that you mention Canadians being good at guerilla warfare. I mean, ok. BUT THAT IS A TERRIBLE POSSIBILITY
WW3 has likely begun (which will only be evident in retrospect, and the timing varied across participants) - we need visible, traditional deterrence ASAFP, and we also need to not piss off the insanity developing in the US too much, or Carney could be Maduro’d and you could get to test your theory about how good we are in guerilla warfare.
While “traditional” defense spending unfolds, my sense (hope?) is that this government will also be making the sensible investments and modernization efforts you are alluding to.
We are now in a world where “safety” and “security” for Canadians is no longer assured by pax americana, and we are likely going to witness the implosion of american democracy in real time
It wasnt an accusation, merely saying that these things are possible
Noting you didnt comment on the “bad” article part
lolz
typical right wing hand wringing
Soon I might even say no-no words, if we keep discussing this
brace yourself
You’re operating under some pretty wild assumptions here and end up arguing in bad faith. I don’t think I want to follow you up the stupid hill you’re getting ready to die on.
Rabble is not a right wing outlet, very much the opposite. The article is not “bad” just because you say it is. And Lorincz signs the article as a member of VOW, Canada’s oldest pacifist feminist group since the 1960s, and as a member of WILPF, a truly venerable international anti-war feminist organization that was first formed in …1915 to protest WW1.
And here you are doing the oldest “red scare” tactic in the books, accusing peaceniks of being traitors. “Saying these things are possible”… What a weasely thing to say. If you want to say something say it.
So go ahead, say your no-no words, I’m well braced.
Any article that says Canadian defense spending is some how a larger risk to our sovereignty then what being said and done by the US president is either willfully misleading, or woefully under informed. War does not give a fuck if “you’d prefer it didn’t happen”
If we do not become a large enough threat to the Americans, we will be subjugated
Good to see we got past the knee-jerk screams of “traitors”.
Look, I don’t disagree on the principle of Canada developing scary enough hedgehog spikes. The question is how do you do that. IMO, what Ukraine and Iran have both proven is that we are now in the era of drone warfare, where small powers can punch way above their weight by leveraging cheap hardware and applying pressure in the right spots. This actually aligns perfectly with the kind of warfare doctrines that the Canadian forces have traditionally been very good at (semi-guerilla tactics basically).
I would be 100% for a defense posture that prioritizes civil defence, and training the population to resist and fight any kind of US adventurism with drones and guerilla tactics. The great thing about it is that it could also double-use for climate resilience. But I am not convinced that the kind of big defense spending the Liberals are pushing for are in that direction. Instead they are pushing for an export oriented arms industry, that absolutely feeds in a “military keynesianism” kind of escalatory posture.
At the same time, the best way to not lose a war is not fighting one. And I am just not seeing Carney actively working to de-escalate the global situation. For example, what the actual fuck is he doing supporting the war in Iran? What the actual fuck is he doing by insisting on supporting the one major destabilizer in the MENA region, Israel?
EDIT: Oh and the article goes into quite a bit of depth about potential corruption and grift opportunities.
…firstly, I didn’t scream anything, so I am glad we got past the histrionics
I also broadly agree with making more adaptable, modern, flexible, domestic defense and climate developments
Also, its cute that you mention Canadians being good at guerilla warfare. I mean, ok. BUT THAT IS A TERRIBLE POSSIBILITY
WW3 has likely begun (which will only be evident in retrospect, and the timing varied across participants) - we need visible, traditional deterrence ASAFP, and we also need to not piss off the insanity developing in the US too much, or Carney could be Maduro’d and you could get to test your theory about how good we are in guerilla warfare.
While “traditional” defense spending unfolds, my sense (hope?) is that this government will also be making the sensible investments and modernization efforts you are alluding to.
We are now in a world where “safety” and “security” for Canadians is no longer assured by pax americana, and we are likely going to witness the implosion of american democracy in real time