Could one of you good folks explain to an outsider how this Muppet is still in elected office?
Like he’s infamous on the far side of the Atlantic in the drugs and private jet and “fuck the poors” way. I haven’t seen anything that would justify voting for him.
Many ontarians are really stupid. His “buck a beer” and literally no other platform to run on struck a chord with people who decided they got tired of the liberals
For a hot minute. Surprisingly it was really poorly made, and breweries couldn’t justify the cheap price for the cost of ingredients since none of it was subsidized by the provincial government.
I did vote, not for dofo, but if you dont vote, you agree with the outcome. If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice. And in this case if you didn’t vote in ontario, you implicitly agree with the outcome of the election, as you decided not to participate, and allowed others to make the government choice for you.
@T00l_shed if i don’t vote, i don’t vote. i choose other courses of action. the people who voted for Doug Ford voted for Doug Ford. the people who did not vote did not vote for anyone.
here’s the nonsense logic of what you’re saying: most of eight billion people in the world who also didn’t vote in the Ontario election also voted for Doug Ford because they didn’t vote. but the people who did vote for Doug Ford, they’re your best friend and you’re okay with their decision. so you don’t really have any problem with Doug Ford.
implicit agreement is not a thing. that’s the opposite of consent. that’s you putting the responsibility for things going wrong, in a system that is designed make things go wrong, on everyone but the people who caused the problem. that is bullshit.
here’s the nonsense logic of what you’re saying: most of eight billion people in the world who also didn’t vote in the Ontario election also voted for Doug Ford because they didn’t vote. but the people who did vote for Doug Ford, they’re your best friend and you’re okay with their decision. so you don’t really have any problem with Doug Ford.
Fucking TIL the population of Ontario is 8 billion. Thanks for learning me
Oh, you’re so tough. Pretending to fight people on the internet. I’m not intimidated by you. I’m also not childish enough to get into a cockfight with you.
@PhoenixDog nope. if you voted for Ford, then you voted for Ford. if you didn’t vote for Ford, then you didn’t vote for Ford. abstention is not neutrality. words have meaning. you are responsible for your choices, or else you make irresponsible choices.
to be able to vote, you must have a permanent address. everyone who does not have a permanent address because they can’t afford housing, did they vote for Doug Ford? children can’t vote, did they vote for Doug Ford by not being old enough to vote?
why won’t you put the responsibility for having voted for Doug Ford on those who marked a ballot for Doug Ford?
You’re absolutely right. ABSTENTION is not neutrality. Did you cast a ballot? Even a blank ballot? You can cast what’s called a “ruined ballot” and it still counts as a vote.
Not voting at all, not casting a ballot at all is neutrality, not abstention. Watch any parliamentary preceding. When they take votes, the speaker asks every individual. Those there vote yay or nay. If they don’t, they literally say the words “I abstain”. Then they ask the reps who aren’t there to vote. No one is in the seat to vote.
They are two very VERY different terms.
It’s not that difficult.
Go fucking vote. Vote for your dog. Just vote. Not voting votes for the winner.
You don’t get a pass because you’re too fucking lazy to support democracy. “But I don’t like any party” then vote for an independent. But cast a fucking ballot.
to be able to vote, you must have a permanent address. everyone who does not have a permanent address because they can’t afford housing, did they vote for Doug Ford? children can’t vote, did they vote for Doug Ford by not being old enough to vote?
Let’s at least TRY to be honest. We know the percentage of “voter turnout” vs “eligible voters”. Not a single person who works with Elections counts children and homeless people as “non-voters”. Take that fucking strawman back to the farm field and leave it there.
Just because you want to rationalize people who are eligible to vote not doing so because they’re lazy, uninterested pieces of shit that are literally a bigger problem than Ford and his party… Doesn’t give you a pass.
If people actually WANTED to gain political knowledge, WANTED to vote, Ford wouldn’t still be Premier. But people are lazy, dumb, uneducated, and don’t care.
I’m nearly 40. I’ve voted in every provincial and federal election I could have since I could. I stay connected to politics. I learn. I want to learn. I want to be educated. Because I know politics affects everything from policy to groceries to gas prices to housing to road infrastructure to schools to…
Refusing to participate in democracy is a choice. A shit choice, an uneducated choice, and an ignorant choice.
Could one of you good folks explain to an outsider how this Muppet is still in elected office?
Like he’s infamous on the far side of the Atlantic in the drugs and private jet and “fuck the poors” way. I haven’t seen anything that would justify voting for him.
Many ontarians are really stupid. His “buck a beer” and literally no other platform to run on struck a chord with people who decided they got tired of the liberals
It’s some slogan in fairness. Alliteration and everything.
I presume buck is dollar in this context? Did he deliver on one dollar beers?
As far as I recall all he was doing was lowering the legal bottom limit beer could be sold for. And yes, we use a buck to refer to a loonie sometimes
For a hot minute. Surprisingly it was really poorly made, and breweries couldn’t justify the cheap price for the cost of ingredients since none of it was subsidized by the provincial government.
He just expected breweries to take the loss.
Hahaha. I’m rolling around here. Genuinely. Hahahaha.
@T00l_shed @khannie
if most Ontarians didn’t vote, then most Ontarians didn’t vote for Doug Ford. so who voted for Doug Ford, and what does that system represent?
“not my party, not my leader” never goes out of style if you’re an anarchist.
If you didn’t vote, you implicitly accepted the outcome.
@T00l_shed nope. if you vote, you are responsible for what you chose. i didn’t choose what you chose. you did.
I did vote, not for dofo, but if you dont vote, you agree with the outcome. If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice. And in this case if you didn’t vote in ontario, you implicitly agree with the outcome of the election, as you decided not to participate, and allowed others to make the government choice for you.
@T00l_shed if i don’t vote, i don’t vote. i choose other courses of action. the people who voted for Doug Ford voted for Doug Ford. the people who did not vote did not vote for anyone.
here’s the nonsense logic of what you’re saying: most of eight billion people in the world who also didn’t vote in the Ontario election also voted for Doug Ford because they didn’t vote. but the people who did vote for Doug Ford, they’re your best friend and you’re okay with their decision. so you don’t really have any problem with Doug Ford.
implicit agreement is not a thing. that’s the opposite of consent. that’s you putting the responsibility for things going wrong, in a system that is designed make things go wrong, on everyone but the people who caused the problem. that is bullshit.
Fucking TIL the population of Ontario is 8 billion. Thanks for learning me
@T00l_shed
that’s not what i said. try again.
reading comprehension is not your strong suit, i can tell.
You chose not to vote against the worse option.
You don’t get to try and weasel out of your responsibility that easily.
Wow, you’re a fucking idiot.
@wonderingwanderer
want to say that to my face and see what happens?
Oh, you’re so tough. Pretending to fight people on the internet. I’m not intimidated by you. I’m also not childish enough to get into a cockfight with you.
You’re still a fucking idiot though.
@wonderingwanderer if you’re so brave to call me an idiot then come say that to my face and see what happens.
you won’t respond to reason, so you can have the alternative.
Neutrality sides with the winner.
If you didn’t vote, you voted for Ford.
@PhoenixDog nope. if you voted for Ford, then you voted for Ford. if you didn’t vote for Ford, then you didn’t vote for Ford. abstention is not neutrality. words have meaning. you are responsible for your choices, or else you make irresponsible choices.
to be able to vote, you must have a permanent address. everyone who does not have a permanent address because they can’t afford housing, did they vote for Doug Ford? children can’t vote, did they vote for Doug Ford by not being old enough to vote?
why won’t you put the responsibility for having voted for Doug Ford on those who marked a ballot for Doug Ford?
You’re absolutely right. ABSTENTION is not neutrality. Did you cast a ballot? Even a blank ballot? You can cast what’s called a “ruined ballot” and it still counts as a vote.
Not voting at all, not casting a ballot at all is neutrality, not abstention. Watch any parliamentary preceding. When they take votes, the speaker asks every individual. Those there vote yay or nay. If they don’t, they literally say the words “I abstain”. Then they ask the reps who aren’t there to vote. No one is in the seat to vote.
They are two very VERY different terms.
It’s not that difficult.
Go fucking vote. Vote for your dog. Just vote. Not voting votes for the winner.
You don’t get a pass because you’re too fucking lazy to support democracy. “But I don’t like any party” then vote for an independent. But cast a fucking ballot.
Let’s at least TRY to be honest. We know the percentage of “voter turnout” vs “eligible voters”. Not a single person who works with Elections counts children and homeless people as “non-voters”. Take that fucking strawman back to the farm field and leave it there.
Just because you want to rationalize people who are eligible to vote not doing so because they’re lazy, uninterested pieces of shit that are literally a bigger problem than Ford and his party… Doesn’t give you a pass.
If people actually WANTED to gain political knowledge, WANTED to vote, Ford wouldn’t still be Premier. But people are lazy, dumb, uneducated, and don’t care.
I’m nearly 40. I’ve voted in every provincial and federal election I could have since I could. I stay connected to politics. I learn. I want to learn. I want to be educated. Because I know politics affects everything from policy to groceries to gas prices to housing to road infrastructure to schools to…
Refusing to participate in democracy is a choice. A shit choice, an uneducated choice, and an ignorant choice.