• Jack@lemmy.ca
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    19 days ago

    I’ve twice asked Christians to pray in Jesus’ name asking for the immediate and permanent end to torture, rape, murder, and war. They prayed, and when I next met them they were still Christians despite none of those things ending.

    I think religious people are dishonest and/or unable to differentiate between reality and fairytales.

    Matthew 7:7-11
    7 Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. 9 Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 So if you who are evil know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!

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      19 days ago

      I guess the monkey palm only applied to current end of torture, rape, murder, and war and not future instances, but I could imagine Iraq war still being ongoing, or if it happened at the beginning of the Russian war that’s clearly ongoing

    • wewbull@feddit.uk
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      19 days ago

      Playing devil’s advocate: science hasn’t cracked any of those yet either.

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          19 days ago

          It absolutely is. They’re sociology problems. Observations can be made on causal factors in society, changes made, effects observed, results shared.

          Have a read of the book “The Science Of Racism” for how science can give a insight into dealing with a social issue.

    • Pyr@lemmy.ca
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      19 days ago

      People who are religious in the end have faith because they are selfish. They will perpetuate a religious belief that overall creates a worse world for everyone living (wars, enforced ideology, etc) in the hopes that they can have an afterlife of bliss and excess.