You do understand that a modern or post-modern society will have their own tools to detect radiation? We don’t need to optimize for them, we need to optimize for those people who haven’t developed that far.
A skull and crossbones is a pretty universal symbol of death.
Oh yeah? Have you seen any research demonstrating that people unfamiliar with that iconography associate it universally with death? Or are you assuming they would, since you’ve seen it associated with death your whole life due to pirate media etc?
Your solution is barely above “why don’t they just write NUCLEAR STUFF, DANGER?”
Some mythology that speaks of ancient ancestors who created magical rocks that can melt your flesh off at a distance so that they could turn the daylight on inside isn’t likely to deter anyone but the most gullible and least inquisitive.
Yeah, not like millions of people have been following such rules for thousands of years. Much better to use iconography they probably won’t know or understand.
It also assumes that such a made-up religion would survive longer than any extant languages and scientific knowledge, which is absurd.
We LITERALLY have religions that survived their languages & scientific knowledge dying off, and most of our modern religious ideas are simply remixes of previous ones. You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.
You do understand that a modern or post-modern society will have their own tools to detect radiation? We don’t need to optimize for them, we need to optimize for those people who haven’t developed that far.
Yes, and do you realize that not everyone in a nuclear-capable society wanders around with a geiger counter? If an archaeologist digs up a plate with an atomic diagram of a radioactive isotope, they would at least know “hey, maybe I should get a geiger counter before digging any further.”
Oh yeah? Have you seen any research demonstrating that people unfamiliar with that iconography associate it universally with death?
Dude, when humans die, they decompose, leaving behind a skull and bones. I’m not making any assumptions based on “pirate media.” Pirates used the symbol because it’s universally recognizably as implying “death” or “danger.” It’s highly arrogant and insulting for you to think any other culture wouldn’t be capable of drawing that connection.
Yeah, not like millions of people have been following such rules for thousands of years.
And modern society, particularly in scientifically-minded sectors, already view that as archaic superstition. How are you going to convince enough nuclear engineers to join your cult in order to maintain an unbroken apostolic succession for millennia?
We LITERALLY have religions that survived their languages & scientific knowledge dying off, and most of our modern religious ideas are simply remixes of previous ones.
Name one religion that has survived its original language dying off. Reconstructions such as neopaganism don’t count, and neither do languages that can still be translated.
Also, if the nuclear radiation cult’s mythology gets “remixed” by a new religion, then it loses the intent of preserving a warning for future generations. Do you honestly believe modern christianity has maintained the same intent as the original?
Dude, when humans die, they decompose, leaving behind a skull and bones.
Yep. And what happens with those remains? They get buried, often with valuables - treasure! This must be a grave, let’s dig it up!
Whoops, your “universal sign of danger” just attracts people.
It’s highly arrogant and insulting for you to think any other culture wouldn’t be capable of drawing that connection.
Oh, how lucky are we to have you in our midst, who - without any research or evidence - just happened to know much better than people who have researched this.
Your arrogance is showing. It’s embarrassing for you that you don’t see it.
“i’Ve ReSeArChEd ThIs, trust me bro” oh yeah, and I suppose that means you’ve encountered a culture that doesn’t understand the meaning of the skull and crossbones, since you’re sooo confident they would think it means treasure?
By the way, pirates didn’t mark their treasure with the symbol; that would be stupid. They displayed it on their ships to instill fear in their victims before boarding.
oh yeah, and I suppose that means you’ve encountered a culture that doesn’t understand the meaning of the skull and crossbones, since you’re sooo confident they would think it means treasure?
I don’t think it’s possible for me to communicate with you. You’re literally too dense to understand that other people don’t have the same cultural background and could interpret symbols differently.
And you’re too dense to understand that literally every human being who’s ever lived or ever will is capable of drawing the inherent connection between the skull and crossbones and death, due to the inherent relationship between them.
Literally Carl Sagan even proposed using the symbol. Is he too dense to understand too?
There are literally millions of graves without elaborate symbols or ornamentation, but with valuables. What the fuck?
And we’re talking about signs created by a previous, far more advanced civilization which are made from materials and colors the people we talk about could have never imagined. HOW MUCH MORE ELABORATE AND ORNATE CAN YOU GET?!
You do understand that a modern or post-modern society will have their own tools to detect radiation? We don’t need to optimize for them, we need to optimize for those people who haven’t developed that far.
Oh yeah? Have you seen any research demonstrating that people unfamiliar with that iconography associate it universally with death? Or are you assuming they would, since you’ve seen it associated with death your whole life due to pirate media etc?
Your solution is barely above “why don’t they just write NUCLEAR STUFF, DANGER?”
Yeah, not like millions of people have been following such rules for thousands of years. Much better to use iconography they probably won’t know or understand.
We LITERALLY have religions that survived their languages & scientific knowledge dying off, and most of our modern religious ideas are simply remixes of previous ones. You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried.
Yes, and do you realize that not everyone in a nuclear-capable society wanders around with a geiger counter? If an archaeologist digs up a plate with an atomic diagram of a radioactive isotope, they would at least know “hey, maybe I should get a geiger counter before digging any further.”
Dude, when humans die, they decompose, leaving behind a skull and bones. I’m not making any assumptions based on “pirate media.” Pirates used the symbol because it’s universally recognizably as implying “death” or “danger.” It’s highly arrogant and insulting for you to think any other culture wouldn’t be capable of drawing that connection.
And modern society, particularly in scientifically-minded sectors, already view that as archaic superstition. How are you going to convince enough nuclear engineers to join your cult in order to maintain an unbroken apostolic succession for millennia?
Name one religion that has survived its original language dying off. Reconstructions such as neopaganism don’t count, and neither do languages that can still be translated.
Also, if the nuclear radiation cult’s mythology gets “remixed” by a new religion, then it loses the intent of preserving a warning for future generations. Do you honestly believe modern christianity has maintained the same intent as the original?
Yep. And what happens with those remains? They get buried, often with valuables - treasure! This must be a grave, let’s dig it up!
Whoops, your “universal sign of danger” just attracts people.
Oh, how lucky are we to have you in our midst, who - without any research or evidence - just happened to know much better than people who have researched this.
Your arrogance is showing. It’s embarrassing for you that you don’t see it.
“i’Ve ReSeArChEd ThIs, trust me bro” oh yeah, and I suppose that means you’ve encountered a culture that doesn’t understand the meaning of the skull and crossbones, since you’re sooo confident they would think it means treasure?
By the way, pirates didn’t mark their treasure with the symbol; that would be stupid. They displayed it on their ships to instill fear in their victims before boarding.
I haven’t researched this, scientists have.
I don’t think it’s possible for me to communicate with you. You’re literally too dense to understand that other people don’t have the same cultural background and could interpret symbols differently.
And you’re too dense to understand that literally every human being who’s ever lived or ever will is capable of drawing the inherent connection between the skull and crossbones and death, due to the inherent relationship between them.
Literally Carl Sagan even proposed using the symbol. Is he too dense to understand too?
YES, WHICH IS CONNECTED TO GRAVES, AND THUS VALUABLES
Which part of this sentence is too complex for you?
Not every grave contains valuables, and ones that do would be marked with more elaborate symbols and ornamentation.
Nobody’s tombstone has a skull and crossbones on it, your argument is completely detached from reality
There are literally millions of graves without elaborate symbols or ornamentation, but with valuables. What the fuck?
And we’re talking about signs created by a previous, far more advanced civilization which are made from materials and colors the people we talk about could have never imagined. HOW MUCH MORE ELABORATE AND ORNATE CAN YOU GET?!