FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 9 days agoIlliberalism Is Not Inevitable. If Viktor Orbán can lose, then his Russian and American admirers can lose too.www.theatlantic.comexternal-linkmessage-square178linkfedilinkarrow-up11arrow-down10
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minus-squareEightBitBlood@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·8 days agoWell if you don’t vote, you just get all those things (and worse) happening anyway.
minus-squareceoofanarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·8 days agoOr you know organize outside of electorlism or if you must vote for someone opposed to genocide at the very least.
minus-squareEightBitBlood@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·8 days agoOrganize to do what outside of electorlism? Asking because I’m genuinely curious what you feel is more affective than voting in how we can each contribute to avoiding genocide. Within legal means of course. Because I’m certainly in support of deposing fascists and oligarchs. Taking Orban as evidence, this can certainly be achieved through voting in even the most rigged of elections.
minus-squareceoofanarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·8 days agoOrban was replaced by another far right racist imperialist just one m ore friendly to NATO and the EU than Putin.
minus-squareEightBitBlood@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·8 days agoOne small improvement like this one, made every voting cycle, will eventually lead to wherever you want to move those goal posts.
minus-squareKindness is Punk@lemmy.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·8 days agoDo both. DO BOTH. One does not preclude the other. In fact by building the best future you can with your vote you leave space to do the other.
Well if you don’t vote, you just get all those things (and worse) happening anyway.
Or you know organize outside of electorlism or if you must vote for someone opposed to genocide at the very least.
Organize to do what outside of electorlism?
Asking because I’m genuinely curious what you feel is more affective than voting in how we can each contribute to avoiding genocide.
Within legal means of course. Because I’m certainly in support of deposing fascists and oligarchs.
Taking Orban as evidence, this can certainly be achieved through voting in even the most rigged of elections.
Orban was replaced by another far right racist imperialist just one m ore friendly to NATO and the EU than Putin.
One small improvement like this one, made every voting cycle, will eventually lead to wherever you want to move those goal posts.
Do both. DO BOTH. One does not preclude the other. In fact by building the best future you can with your vote you leave space to do the other.