Looking to replace and iPhone 11 Needs to be repairable Able to text people with WhatsApp or other third party apps Able to play music with a local mp3 player Headphone jack

  • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netM
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    41
    ·
    3 days ago

    AFAIK the fairphone is the only phone on the market that is explicitly designed to be user repairable. It doesn’t have a headphone Jack, though.

    • kata1yst@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      30
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 days ago

      Yep. But a mobile device will never really be BIFL. Too many sacrifices in form factor, and software / hardware move too fast to practically stay on one device for more than 5-7 years IMHO.

      • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netM
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        26
        ·
        3 days ago

        This BIFL community does not require that something literally last forever, just that it be more durable and lasting than other objects in the same category.

      • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        3 days ago

        My fairphone was 5 years old when I bought it second hand, see no reason it can’t last more than 0-2 more years.

          • erebion@news.erebion.eu
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 day ago

            But not much. If the SoC manufacturer no longer provides firmware updates for the hardware, your custom ROM will not help.

            Bluetooth can be turned off, but for security issues in the modem, welll… Not if you want to use it as a phone.

            • solbear@slrpnk.net
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              23 hours ago

              Bluetooth can be turned off, but for security issues in the modem, welll… Not if you want to use it as a phone.

              I often hear this and other comments like “If you don’t upgrade your system software immediately you are already hacked” etc. But I’ve never seen any description of what actually can happen with a phone that goes without updates for some time - how often are vulnerabilities in the modem found for instance, and have there ever been a widely exploited attack?

              • erebion@news.erebion.eu
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                19 hours ago

                Depends on the risk your at. If you’re in a country where having your own opinion is dangerous (Russia, for example) it’s certainly different to a person in Western Europe.

                There have been successful attacks on modems and Bluetooth.

                It’s about the threat model. It’s complicated and nuanced and does not really fit in here.

                But regardless, there’s no reason the hardware couldn’t be supported much longer. Apart from capitalism, of course.

          • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            2 days ago

            My last android was abandoned by it’d manufacturer by the time I walked out the shop. I’ll just go without updates if I have to.

    • HerbGrower@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      3 days ago

      Since finding out about over ear headphones I have been less bothered with wireless. They are far more secure, even cycling around not once had them fall off.