Please provide more detail than “Trump is a twat” and “epstein distraction” cos that’s fucking obvious

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    3 months ago

    Why: I think it’s mostly a matter of trump wanting to make a name for himself outside of his maga cult. Neocons never liked him, and he hopes this might change it. Plus, a dose of realpolitik in an effort to seem tough usually works.

    When: It will have to end soon, otherwise he’ll be shitting in his base. However, while wanting to pull back he’ll realize he has two choices:

    • Declare “victory” and leave the regime still in power, leaving people (his base included) asking what all these tax dollars were spent on
    • Keep going, losing more and more support from his isolationist base and then some. Iran is, at present, the most unpopular war from a US polling perspective, so it is highly unlikely there will be a rally-around-the-flag effect for him. Even more unlikely the linger it goes on - a war doesn’t become more popular over time.

    How: Airstrikes will continue until the paragraph above has been addressed. And since Trump never reads history, he’s probably way too optimistic, never realizing this simple fact: No country/regime has ever unconditionally surrendered because of conventional airstrikes and bombardment alone.

    To quote Sarah Paine (renowned military scholar and historian), once you put your enemy on death ground, meaning they will have to fight on or (probably) die, they will not surrender. Trump never offered the Iran regime an offramp, and while it sucks to be in Iran right now, they have no incentive to surrender.

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      3 months ago

      There’s also nothing to indicate that Iran would completely reopen the strait even if the US up and fucked off. What incentive do they have at this point to return to the old status quo?

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            3 months ago

            The US sunk 16 of their mine laying ships and has been having to shoot down mine laying drones. No one really going through so no real idea about how many if any mines have gotten through.

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              3 months ago

              Is that verified and were the ships actually in operation? All I saw was “inactive mine-laying ships”

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                3 months ago

                I do believe we sank them before they were active along with or near in time to the first decapitation strike. Personally no idea about whether they have more.

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                  3 months ago

                  Careful with that “we” there.

                  Where do you think we are right now?

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      3 months ago

      Sounds like putin and ukraine. Just gotta keep killing people to save his ego