• athatet@lemmy.zip
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    24 days ago

    Because it’s easier than saying “the class of people who are rich enough to rape and murder and eat babies and get away with it”

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      24 days ago

      What? I am sorry, they did not get away with it, why else would you have news cycle upon news cycle dedicated to the case?

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        23 days ago

        Are they in prison? No. They got away with it. Why are you Epstein class apologist?

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          23 days ago

          Who the fuck am I apologizing for. Where did I say “umm ackchually epstein wasn’t as bad”. I am saying that framing the whole thing around epstein, even when just using him as a foot in the door, does nothing but further the magical thinking around epstein being some sort of ultra-cunning puppetmaster, which he wasn’t.

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              23 days ago

              Yet so many aren’t “stopped.”

              Yes and this is the case for the vast majority of investigations in organised crime. You don’t see mafia networks not being completely dismantled and people there getting away. You don’t see cops protecting other cops when they transgress. The whole Epstein thing is a pattern that repeats in all of society, on almost all levels.

              I cannot help but notice the parallels between Epstein and Plastic straws in media. On one side you have the outrage regarding Epstein, on the other you have systemic facts that enable Epstein that also cause a lot of other uncomfortable realities. You have plastic straws that most can do without, where it’s easy to say “we don’t need this” and then you have an entire economy centred around single use plastics where straws are only a minute subset. We could say this is just barking around the lowest common denominator and I find it insulting that the science of economic critique has its language, aesthetics and politics appropriated for tabloid-level engagement farming.

              Now, where am I committing the sin of apologia of shaving cuts when I am rubbing salt in the wounds otherwise covered by garment?

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                23 days ago

                This is terribly important context that wasn’t included, and made your post sound incredibly apologist. Perhaps any important clarifying context could be included in the future, to avoid this confusion.

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        23 days ago

        I don’t think anything Epsein et al were doing has stopped, unfortunately.

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            23 days ago

            I understand what you’re saying, but especially on this side of the Atlantic it feels like there haven’t been any consequences for most of his coconspirators and nothing has been done to prevent it from happening.