Canadians: Greenland must be the line in the sand. Non negotiable.

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    Venezuela should have been the line. Want to make it Greenland? So, they can take mexico, Cuba?

    Each inch they take is too much. They have proven that they are following the Fascist guidebook.

    Venezuela is the first step. Same as Hitler with Poland.

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      Greenland is arguably under NATO protection. Cuba is not, and there are in fact many groups of Cubans in the US who support an invasion of Cuba, I’m not going to get involved with that bullshit.

      As for Mexico, I’m saddened by the lack of an informal alliance between the two countries. As much as I wish it weren’t so, I’ve not seen any indication from Mexico that they would stand with us. An invasion of Mexico would be an enormous step that would justify ramping up sanctioning behavior, but for me, as a Canadian, the line in the sand should be Greenland. Meaning if Greenland is ever directly attacked, we are in a war stance. We cut off everything to the US, sell all the Tbonds, nationalize all strategic resources (oil, media, telecom, water, hydro, food, potash, critical minerals), seize assists and nationalize all patents. I would recommend we also look for any alliance with China.

      THAT’S what I mean by a line in the sand. We cut them off and dig in.

      Edit… Hey if you disagree tell me why, stand up for yourself don’t just downvote and move on.

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    Hi, failed expat here. Tried to move to Guelph legally in 2023-24 because Nazification of the USA was incredibly obvious to anyone who reads. Canadians changed their laws to be racist to Indians and excluded me, even though I am a white masters degree holder who had professional connections in the region.

    When I die fighting ICE outside of some middle school because I caught them trying to kidnap people at my work, know that I would have lived in peace. I literally just wanted to eat delicious cheesecake in Guelph with my hot wife (who doesn’t have full rights in the fucking USA).

    *edit: I want the people who are downvoting this to explain to me which part exactly they disagree with, because I think the implication is pretty disgusting generally.

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    Anyone who thinks warmongering, fascism, and terrorism are unAmerican has not read much American history. The U.S.A was founded on genocide, grown on slavery, and has oligarchy baked in to their constitution. Hitler studied the way the U.S. treated indigenous and black people to form his genocide plans, and Israel has built on both the U.S. and Nazi examples for their treatment of Palestine.

    The beat goes on.

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      What people hear when you say things like this: Ah, so this is business as usual, and while it sucks for the people affected, keeping my head down should continue working to keep me out of trouble. I’m powerless to fix this stuff, anyway, so I should just dissociate and worry about my own problems.

      And then they don’t show up for elections…

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    We know it’s not a joke. The three most populated cities in the US are in deep blue states and full of people who don’t want this. For everyone in those cities, it would take days and hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, to travel to the White House. Most of us are behind on rent, have had our cars repossessed, don’t make a living wage, don’t have healthcare, and have unsustainable credit card debt.

    Outside of a very vocal minority, the American people are overwhelmingly united around the fact that we don’t want this to happen.

    However, the American people aren’t in control of the American government, and the American government are overwhelmingly united around corporate interests.

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    Americans know. They just don’t have any idea what to do, and no single person can solve the problem.

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        The world doesn’t need to go to war, it needs to stop being afraid of a major economic downturn.

        Stop everything with the US: trade, travel, everything. Deport all Americans back to their native soil. Isolate them, and see how quickly things change.

        While we’re at it, do the same with Russia and Israel. And maybe China?

        Would it cause a global economic crisis? Probably. But people are already dying—it’s worth it if we can actually end a genocide and a couple wars.

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          Deport all Americans back to their native soil.

          I haven’t lived there in a decade and only maintain citizenship to have access to my parents in cases of emergency. Why on earth would you send me back to that hell-hole? All that accomplishes is destroying my family, my business, my wife’s ability to live, etc.

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            I don’t agree with them, but I do see the logic. Send back a bunch Americans who saw good reason to leave and perhaps they’ll be forced to try to make it more like wherever they fled to.

            Or it’s just vindictive “Trump deports people so we deport people” idiocy, idk

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              but I do see the logic.

              I don’t. What are they going to do? A lot of people I know who live abroad have done so for decades and have no living family in the US. All it would do is introduce a bunch of homeless people to the US and destroy lives. I voted against the current administration and disagree with everything they do. Guess they should just make my wife homeless, get my house repossessed, destroy my career, and probably just end with me killing myself because of where I was born. Must be big fans of ICEs work, I guess.

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    Germans had a prideful couple of years when France fell but then it got ugly. So average mercan will no doubt celebrate on the short term about how great frump and merca are. Reality for them is a few years away. Think of this as 1938. Merca didnt join the war against nazis in 1942 ‘til Europe was defeated and england was on its knees.

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      The “average American” despises Trump and MAGA. MAGA is a minority in this country. Our problem is that our elected politicians have CHOSEN to allow MAGA to flourish, despite strong condemnation from the citizens.

      Congressional Dems will likely control Congress after the 2026 Midterm Election. Let’s see if they will finally take bold and decisive action against MAGA, like the voters are demanding.

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        The “average American” despises Trump

        How did Trump win the elections in a two party system if over half the population despises him? I know the US electoral system is not directly related to raw amount of votes, but still.

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          Trump actually got less votes the second time than he did the first time. Voter turnout in the US is miniscule, with less than half the population voting for a variety of reasons (gerrymandering, voting day is not a federal holiday so people still have to work, the lack of politicians who do what they promise, etc.).

          So roughly a quarter of the country voted for him, and some of them voted for him because he isn’t a Democrat. There’s a great story about how a trans person who ran on a defund the police campaign got elected county sheriff in Vermont because she ran as the Republican candidate. Enough people showed up and voted for whoever had the R next to their name without ever listening to any of the candidates to know what their stances were that she won by a landslide.

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            Because they CHEATED, and EVERYBODY knows it, even MAGAs. They’d love to brag about it, but they can’t.

            In America, the president isn’t chosen by popular vote. No Republican has won the popular vote on America since Reagan in 1980, and they are less popular now than have been in decades. Trump claims he won it in 2024, but again, they cheated, so it doesn’t count.

            How did they cheat? The presidential race came down to the votes in 7 swing states, as it usually does. Somehow, despite no polls showing it in advance, Trump won decisively in every single one of those states, almost a statistical impossibility.

            To cheat, all they had to do was flip one race, in 7 states, and in those seven states, there were MILLIONS of ballots with straight Democratic tickets, but Trump at the top. MILLIONS! And yet, I’ve never seen a single voter claim they voted that way. I don’t know any, and I’ve never seen one interviewed on TV Supposedly there are millions of them, but nobody has ever talked to one. If you still doubt that, understand that nearly all of those split tickets came from those 7 swing states. We are expected to believe that those sorts of voters only live in those states, and nowhere else.

            Besides that, there are many very strange statistical anomolies in districts and states across America, but nobody on either side is talking about it, the media is complicit as usual, so they aren’t covering it, leaving private individuals to collect the data and exposing it. It starts to sound like a conspiracy theory, but sometimes, even often, conspiracies are true.

            They had four years, and a close alliance between three of the most psychopathic Oligarchs on the planet, including one with the power of a hostile sovereign nation, and two of them with confirmed advanced hacking capabilities, to get their voting machine fraud strategy operational.

            Worse, the moment the race was over, the Dems voluntarily declared that the MAGAs won it “fair & square,” even though it was fishy at the outset to anyone with basic Critical Thinking Skills. They didn’t take even the slightest look at it, they were too busy getting excited at the prospect of being smug about teaching a lesson to MAGAs about how to have a peaceful transfer of power, as if MAGAs care about that at all.

            And consider this: Trump routinely cheats at everything he does. Everything. He thinks it gives him an advantage over those weak people with morality, which it does. He cheats even when he doesn’t have to, because he always thinks it will give some sort of an advantage.

            He was about to go to trial, and almost certainly would have ended up in prison, as the evidence of his treason in two separate cases was incontrovertible. The only thing that would keep him out of prison for the rest of his life, was becoming president. So we are supposed to believe that the one election that would keep him out of prison for life, was the one election that he decided to finally play it “fair & square” for the first time in his entire life? How can ANYONE be that obtuse?

            The Democratic Leadership reaction finally exposed, once and for all, how weak and cowardly the Dem leadership like Schmuck Schumer, Jeffries, Pelosi, etc. truly are. They don’t really want power, all they care about is remaining in office so they can keep padding their bank accounts with insider trading. It’s as if they know that the entire world is about to turn authoritarian, and the only thing that will save them and their heirs is a shit ton of money, so they are concentrating on that, instead of saving America, and the world, from MAGA rule.

            MAGA is only about a 1/3 of America, and shrinking. They got into power by cheating, and they will hold power through brutality. We have a couple of elections ahead that will secure the future one way or the other, and it is literally the Democrats last chance, and they actually have a good chance to prevail…

            …unless they squander this opportunity, the way they did during the shameful Biden administration, and fail to crush MAGA once and for all, and purge it from our government and our society. Then America will be lost, and likely slip into Civil War, and the rest of the world will be on their own to prevent their own takeovers by Russia and China.

            Other countries need America to slip out of this peacefully nearly as much as America does. They need to pressure their leaders, to pressure the Democratic Party, to take its responsibility seriously, and either fight back, or get out of the way and let the rising Progressive Warriors have a go at stopping MAGA.