You really have the whole thing backwards don’t you. There was a whole South Park episode about how impossible it is for society to take the rape of young boys by reasonably attractive women seriously.
In general for rape seriousness it goes:
Boy raped by man (this is the worst and even powerful men can be undone here)
Girl raped by man (this is generally acknowledged as a terrible thing as long as the girl comes from a higher or similar status family than the man)
Boy raped by woman (only taken seriously if the woman is hideous, otherwise it’s everyone cheering the boy for being so lucky to be raped by an attractive woman)
Girl raped by girl (taken so unseriously most people don’t even consider it when taking about pedophilia)
Again I’m not supporting this revolting hierarchy, but you can’t exactly deny it.
The word “rape” has lost all meaning in Western society lol. Sure this was wrong (because one of the parties was underage), but it wasn’t “rape” because it was consensual.
That’s the “statutory” part of statutory rape. We as society recognize that power imbalance and grooming are potential scenarios, and can have a less powerful/younger person consenting to something they otherwise would not.
For example, if a cop has someone in handcuffs. We as society recognize that there is an inherent power imbalance, and that the person in handcuffs may be pressured into agreeing to things that they otherwise would not.
Or as another example, if a child is groomed by an adult. We recognize that children are easier to manipulate, and can be groomed to agree to things that they would not have done without being manipulated.
And so society writes criminal laws (statutes) that define these various scenarios, and courts then interpret these statutes and apply them to individual cases as rulings. And if the courts find that a person has violated these laws, the person is guilty of rape by statute. Statutory rape.
For example, maybe a state has a law saying that an adult having sex with a child is considered rape, unless that adult is within 3 years of age with the child. So an 18 year old high school senior won’t get in trouble for banging a 16 year old high school junior. But a 35 year old would be guilty of statutory rape.
Bruh I’ve been 16. At that age, we still voluntarily flirt with adults. I’ll agree that adults have a responsibility to not hook up with minors, but they’re completely aware of what they’re doing.
Backwards? This world absolutely thrives on men raping young girls.
Is the rape of boys by women taken seriously when it comes to light? No. Is it the opposite taken seriously when it comes to light? Well, the media would make it seem so, but the lack of arrests and prosecutions speak otherwise.
More ugly incel pedo men get bad publicity than ugly incel pedo women. That’s it. Otherwise, for every boy raped by a woman who is not taken seriously, there are a thousand girls shamed into silence, or ignored.
Call me when boys are being forced to marry grannies by the million. Try to educate me when just fucking one, just fucking one single young boy is stoned to death by his friends and family because he got raped by a 40 year old woman. Just one, in the history of the human race.
Until then, no, you’ve got the whole thing backwards.
Never said it did. Someone tried to refute what I said. Which is the idea that men in power who rape girls high five each other and, for the most part, don’t get prosecuted. Which is a weird thing to refute in a world where we just had the US government release massive amounts of evidence showing that this is actually happening everywhere all the time.
I think we can all agree that rape and pedophilia is a heinous crime that isn’t taken nearly as seriously as it should, especially like all crimes when the perpetrator is rich.
But let’s not place one gender as the oppressor and the other as the victim. That’s not what the patriarchy is and that’s not what pedophilia and rape victim statistics say. The patriarchy is the dominant social structure and it is helmed by a small group of men of extreme privilege. Below them is a mix of men and women varying in gender mix and privilege until you get to the bottom which is filled in large part by homeless men because the hierarchy punishes men who don’t accept it particularly harshly. The poorest women generally “need to be protected” because paternalistic protection of women is a core (and sexist) value of the patriarchy.
The point is not to say one gender has it better or worse, there is no doubt that on the whole the patriarchy favours men. The point is that the while the issue of rape a pedophilia is a GENDERED issue, it’s not a men vs women thing. Men aren’t high-fiving rapists for raping girls. I can’t go to a single one of my friends or any stranger and get anything but a call to the police if I said “I raped a 16y old girl”. Women aren’t always the victims, sometimes the victims are boys, sometimes the perpetrators are women. Women aren’t 100% treated worse in every case, it’s a known fact, such as in this prosecution that women are treated more leniently by the courts. The average prosecution for statutory is ~40 months, she got 3.
Rape and pedophilia are horrible problems and we aren’t even close to a society that creates justice for victims, but the attitude you have on the topic just muddles the problem further instead of helping towards a solution. If you can get past your ideology and accept all the facts of the situation you’ll be a much more effective advocate for victims.
And all that 40 month 3 month shit pales in comparison to the sheer number of men who simply never get prosecuted. I never said “ignore the women! Get the men!” I just said that men get off for raping girls far far far more than women do. It’s a cold fact, and nothing in all those paragraphs you put forth, changes that.
We can acknowledge that and move on, but everyone seems to prefer to stick their fingers in their ears and scream instead, because they would prefer to punish women more than they want to punish men. And if you really want to dive into patriarchy, you’d see that mindset, instilled by patriarchy, playing out all over this thread.
You really have the whole thing backwards don’t you. There was a whole South Park episode about how impossible it is for society to take the rape of young boys by reasonably attractive women seriously.
In general for rape seriousness it goes:
Again I’m not supporting this revolting hierarchy, but you can’t exactly deny it.
You missed the one about the minor aged boy being responsible for child support if the rapist woman gets pregnant and has the baby.
This is true regardless of the genders involved. Male rapists petition the court for visitation and child support as well.
The word “rape” has lost all meaning in Western society lol. Sure this was wrong (because one of the parties was underage), but it wasn’t “rape” because it was consensual.
That’s the “statutory” part of statutory rape. We as society recognize that power imbalance and grooming are potential scenarios, and can have a less powerful/younger person consenting to something they otherwise would not.
For example, if a cop has someone in handcuffs. We as society recognize that there is an inherent power imbalance, and that the person in handcuffs may be pressured into agreeing to things that they otherwise would not.
Or as another example, if a child is groomed by an adult. We recognize that children are easier to manipulate, and can be groomed to agree to things that they would not have done without being manipulated.
And so society writes criminal laws (statutes) that define these various scenarios, and courts then interpret these statutes and apply them to individual cases as rulings. And if the courts find that a person has violated these laws, the person is guilty of rape by statute. Statutory rape.
For example, maybe a state has a law saying that an adult having sex with a child is considered rape, unless that adult is within 3 years of age with the child. So an 18 year old high school senior won’t get in trouble for banging a 16 year old high school junior. But a 35 year old would be guilty of statutory rape.
A 16 year old cannot consent to sexual acts with sokeone in that Situation - especially given power dynamics and alcohol being involved
Bruh I’ve been 16. At that age, we still voluntarily flirt with adults. I’ll agree that adults have a responsibility to not hook up with minors, but they’re completely aware of what they’re doing.
Backwards? This world absolutely thrives on men raping young girls.
Is the rape of boys by women taken seriously when it comes to light? No. Is it the opposite taken seriously when it comes to light? Well, the media would make it seem so, but the lack of arrests and prosecutions speak otherwise.
More ugly incel pedo men get bad publicity than ugly incel pedo women. That’s it. Otherwise, for every boy raped by a woman who is not taken seriously, there are a thousand girls shamed into silence, or ignored.
Call me when boys are being forced to marry grannies by the million. Try to educate me when just fucking one, just fucking one single young boy is stoned to death by his friends and family because he got raped by a 40 year old woman. Just one, in the history of the human race.
Until then, no, you’ve got the whole thing backwards.
Girls having it worse doesnt Make the rape of boys irrelevant
Never said it did. Someone tried to refute what I said. Which is the idea that men in power who rape girls high five each other and, for the most part, don’t get prosecuted. Which is a weird thing to refute in a world where we just had the US government release massive amounts of evidence showing that this is actually happening everywhere all the time.
I think we can all agree that rape and pedophilia is a heinous crime that isn’t taken nearly as seriously as it should, especially like all crimes when the perpetrator is rich.
But let’s not place one gender as the oppressor and the other as the victim. That’s not what the patriarchy is and that’s not what pedophilia and rape victim statistics say. The patriarchy is the dominant social structure and it is helmed by a small group of men of extreme privilege. Below them is a mix of men and women varying in gender mix and privilege until you get to the bottom which is filled in large part by homeless men because the hierarchy punishes men who don’t accept it particularly harshly. The poorest women generally “need to be protected” because paternalistic protection of women is a core (and sexist) value of the patriarchy.
The point is not to say one gender has it better or worse, there is no doubt that on the whole the patriarchy favours men. The point is that the while the issue of rape a pedophilia is a GENDERED issue, it’s not a men vs women thing. Men aren’t high-fiving rapists for raping girls. I can’t go to a single one of my friends or any stranger and get anything but a call to the police if I said “I raped a 16y old girl”. Women aren’t always the victims, sometimes the victims are boys, sometimes the perpetrators are women. Women aren’t 100% treated worse in every case, it’s a known fact, such as in this prosecution that women are treated more leniently by the courts. The average prosecution for statutory is ~40 months, she got 3.
Rape and pedophilia are horrible problems and we aren’t even close to a society that creates justice for victims, but the attitude you have on the topic just muddles the problem further instead of helping towards a solution. If you can get past your ideology and accept all the facts of the situation you’ll be a much more effective advocate for victims.
And all that 40 month 3 month shit pales in comparison to the sheer number of men who simply never get prosecuted. I never said “ignore the women! Get the men!” I just said that men get off for raping girls far far far more than women do. It’s a cold fact, and nothing in all those paragraphs you put forth, changes that.
We can acknowledge that and move on, but everyone seems to prefer to stick their fingers in their ears and scream instead, because they would prefer to punish women more than they want to punish men. And if you really want to dive into patriarchy, you’d see that mindset, instilled by patriarchy, playing out all over this thread.