Tbf they didn’t knock on my door but yes absolutely gay dudes have tried to fuck me and not taken “no I’m straight sorry dude” as an answer, just “how do you know if you’ve never tried it? C’mon just let me suck your dick you don’t even have to touch me. You sure you don’t want me to suck your dick?” It does sometimes feel like they’re trying to “convert” me when they do that specifically.
That’s not every day or anything though, it’s only happened like 5 times throughout my whole life, mostly at bars except the one guy that kept trying to groom me when I was 12-13 and he was maybe 16-17.
I know, but I never use that card when women tell me “I could never understand how they feel” (nor do I mention the two times I was raped by women), I just let them have their (fake but they don’t know that) moral high ground and pretend empathy and sympathy aren’t real, they seem to like it better that way.
Besides, the times I have tried to relate to women on that, “it doesn’t count” because “women get hit on every day,” and being raped doesn’t count because “it happens to women more,” frankly nobody cares if sexual harassment, assault, or full rape happen to a guy. Hell in my area (cis)women can’t even be charged with rape because legally rape requires penetration, if you tell people a woman raped you, you still mostly just get laughed at, told you should have enjoyed it, and called gay, seriously nobody cares.
Honestly I don’t want sympathy (though thank you), I’m “fine,” it has been years.
What I want is the “treating me like a perpetrator instead of a victim simply because of my penis” and “assuming I can never understand what someone without a penis has gone though because I happen to have one” to end. This divide has gone on long enough.
No one person can do that, of course. I’m really just hoping men like me read my experiences and feel more comfortable sharing their own (and acceptance in response like your comment helps with that, thanks again, I’m not trying to diminish it. I’m just so sick of the worsening various demographic divides in our daily lives.)
I share the same sentiment. We do not talk about and take seriously “men’s problems” enough, in fact there are many times when we actively ridicule them and it is actively hurting the left. You know who is talking about men’s problems (if only in a completely misguided and nonsensically shitty way)? Andrew fucking Tate. Clarification that this is not a matter of bringing women and feminist progress down, or a competition of suffering, or inserting men into women’s problems.
Tbf they didn’t knock on my door but yes absolutely gay dudes have tried to fuck me and not taken “no I’m straight sorry dude” as an answer, just “how do you know if you’ve never tried it? C’mon just let me suck your dick you don’t even have to touch me. You sure you don’t want me to suck your dick?” It does sometimes feel like they’re trying to “convert” me when they do that specifically.
That’s not every day or anything though, it’s only happened like 5 times throughout my whole life, mostly at bars except the one guy that kept trying to groom me when I was 12-13 and he was maybe 16-17.
So now you know how most woman feel when dudes Hit in them.
Useful insight, albeit a bit whataboutistic
I know, but I never use that card when women tell me “I could never understand how they feel” (nor do I mention the two times I was raped by women), I just let them have their (fake but they don’t know that) moral high ground and pretend empathy and sympathy aren’t real, they seem to like it better that way.
Besides, the times I have tried to relate to women on that, “it doesn’t count” because “women get hit on every day,” and being raped doesn’t count because “it happens to women more,” frankly nobody cares if sexual harassment, assault, or full rape happen to a guy. Hell in my area (cis)women can’t even be charged with rape because legally rape requires penetration, if you tell people a woman raped you, you still mostly just get laughed at, told you should have enjoyed it, and called gay, seriously nobody cares.
Thanks for sharing that, sucks what happened to you. 🫂
Honestly I don’t want sympathy (though thank you), I’m “fine,” it has been years.
What I want is the “treating me like a perpetrator instead of a victim simply because of my penis” and “assuming I can never understand what someone without a penis has gone though because I happen to have one” to end. This divide has gone on long enough.
No one person can do that, of course. I’m really just hoping men like me read my experiences and feel more comfortable sharing their own (and acceptance in response like your comment helps with that, thanks again, I’m not trying to diminish it. I’m just so sick of the worsening various demographic divides in our daily lives.)
I share the same sentiment. We do not talk about and take seriously “men’s problems” enough, in fact there are many times when we actively ridicule them and it is actively hurting the left. You know who is talking about men’s problems (if only in a completely misguided and nonsensically shitty way)? Andrew fucking Tate. Clarification that this is not a matter of bringing women and feminist progress down, or a competition of suffering, or inserting men into women’s problems.