• cjoll4@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    He should have arrested whom? Which employee or officer of which of the two companies in the article are you referring to?

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      4 days ago

      The Persons responsible for the state those buildings are in and then deciding to rent them out. They were aware of the situation since the renters withheld their payments. So why does this matter to you?

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        4 days ago

        Okay, so to be clear then, you’re not talking about the same entity that was forced to forgive the back rent. “He should have arrested him instead” implies “He should have arrested him instead of forcing him to forgive the back rent,” when in fact the back rent was incurred under one company that went bankrupt and then forgiven by a different company that subsequently purchased the properties and has fixed 3,500 of the 12,500 known code violations in a short span of time.

        Now, how do you determine the persons responsible for the state those buildings are in? Is it the maintenance staff, the property managers, the C-suite, the equity holders? Responsibility is shared by many people and it flows in multiple directions. I would love for there to be a proper investigation and I hope one is underway, but it’s not as simple as “Zohran Mamdani, you should have personally arrested that man!”

        So why does this matter to you?

        It matters because it chafes me to see a complex issue reduced to pointing fingers at an imaginary slumlord with a twirly black moustache. We’re talking about a large company on which many people depended for their livelihood and even more people depended for safe, well-maintained housing - and that company became financially insolvent. There are so many potential failure points to be investigated.

        These recent events are a major win for the Union of Pinnacle Tenants, but without even reading the article, you decided that the mayor should have personally arrested “him/them” instead of providing relief to the people affected. Not even “arrested him too,” but “arrested him instead.

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          4 days ago

          You are right. I didn’t readmore than the article and am not familiar with the situation and it was a gut reaction. My bad.

          On a broader point regarding companies in general and housing in particular:

          I live in Germany and what the us calls socialism or communism is just common sense for people that would describe themselves as slightly left of center. And the center here is more in line with the majority of the worlds country, so not an outlier. There are cooperations here of course and its not common to find people that subscribe to the idea of class war but still there is a distaste in half of the populations people when we hear about quarterly gains that are made by exploiting workers or consumers or suppliers.

          We also have housing cooperation that own large amounts of units all over Germany and especially in larger city’s. And people hate them. More than just the left, but a all affected. Even though the conditions that are described in the article are magnitudes worse than the occasional mold or broken heating. Its the idea that housing should not be controlled by such a powerful entity. Vonovia is one of the big ones if you want to read up and compare.

          There even was a volksentscheid, a formalized and official non binding vote by the voters, of the city district of Berlin to disown the whole company or at least put it under state control because of the higher rent and conditions of the units. That is now being deliberated for the past years by politics and will be for years to come and nothing of consequence will happen.

          If there was a situations there were units like the ones described In the article it would be a riot. Everybody, Not just the left would rally to get those people to prison or burn the company down. Literally.

          The situation seems to be in part because the company who was responsible for the units in NYC went bankrupt. That’s a feat in itself given the rent prices there and I am sure that somebody with a twirly black moustache made of with some nice cushion

          But the real problem is the real estate market in general that creates these problems. I don’t like renting but that’s a reality. Property is a reality since socialism isn’t anywhere to be found here. Or nowhere for that matter (military regimes that call them self that don’t qualify).

          In consequence I’d like to see people arrested. In that case the politicians that allowed this yo happen in the first place. So many ways to change the situation people are in. Nothing done. Good luck to the new Mayor in the fight against the real power: establishment