A new Dutch class action has been filed against Valve Corporation, the company behind Steam. The case is brought by the Stichting Consumenten Competition Claims (CCC), which has launched the proceedings under the name GameClaim. The foundation acts on behalf of all Dutch PC gamers who have purchased games through Steam or other PC distribution platforms since 2013, IGN Benelux reports.
  • gmtom@lemmy.worldEnglish
    17·
    2 days ago

    I know from experience valve coerces developers into participating in their sale events, basically saying there game won’t get promoted on the store or in searches unless they agree to sales.

    Which considering they already take a massive 30% cut of developers earnings, is very scummy. Lots of indie Devs that already struggle to make money and already sell their games for super cheap are basically forced to cut their profits even further just to get some visibility on the platform.

    • Datz@szmer.infoEnglish
      91·
      2 days ago

      1. I believe you, but they were asking for proof. Sources.

      2. If 30% is massive, what do you propose the cut be? Epic said their 12% cut was unsustainable already.

    • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      82·
      2 days ago

      basically saying there game won’t get promoted on the store or in searches unless they agree to sales.

      I’m very skeptical of that. The Factorio devs famously refuse to ever put the game on sale, and has even increased the price over time to account for inflation. Yet they’re one of the most popular games on Steam

      • gmtom@lemmy.worldEnglish
        32·
        2 days ago

        Yeah they are the notable exception. 99% of I die devs aren’t that lucky.

              • gmtom@lemmy.worldEnglish
                11·
                1 day ago

                Yes, burden of proof lies with me, but what proof do you actually want??

                • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  11·
                  20 hours ago

                  You’re the one making claims figure it out.

                  But by this point it’s pretty obvious that you have no proof. You’re just trying make it look like you’re waiting on me because you can’t admit you’re full of shit.

                  Like I said, pony up or shut up

                  • gmtom@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    1·
                    10 hours ago

                    It’s a pretty simple question and you refusing to answer it just proves you’re not here to argue in good faith and just don’t want to back yourself into a corner that forces you to accept any particular evidence I would give you. As by refusing to state what evidence you would accept you leave yourself the option of arbitrarily refusing anything I present to you.

                    Which is exactly why I ask. I’ve been on the internet a long time and this is the best method for dealing with bad faith trolls.