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Mormon leaders, military veterans and elected officials reacted with anger to a new Department of Defense policy that does not consider The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be a Christian religion as part of a wider effort to cut down the U.S. military’s list of recognized faiths.
“The Pentagon’s decision to list The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints apart from other Christian faiths is wrong and needs to be corrected,” Republican Rep. Mike Kennedy, of heavily Mormon Utah, wrote on X on Sunday.
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When you accept that others rights can be taken away, you must also accept that your own rights can be taken away.
If you accept that groups can be excluded from society, you must also accept that your group may one day be excluded.
If you accept that might makes right, you must accept that one mightier than yourself will one day come along.
If you live by the sword, you will likely die by the sword.
Idk how many times this has to happen throughout history before people act learn from it.
Not just that, their society is fiercely hierarchical, so by its very nature there is already always someone directly above them, and this particular movement has already shown that they don’t see them as equals.
In the wise words of Jello Biafra:
In the real Fourth Reich you’ll be the first to go
Dum dum dum dum 🎶
They came for the Lefties, and the Mormons did nothing.
They came for the Transgenders, and the Mormons did nothing.
They came for the immigrants, and the Mormons did nothing.
Now they’re coming for the Mormons, and…yeah, we could help, but fuck those treasonous pedophile weirdos.
How it is with these guys. Its just a matter of time before they get around to screwing you.
LDS is Christian the way a pineapple is an apple. Petey can go fuck himself though.
One just has golden plates and the other doesn’t. Pretty much the same thing.
It really isn’t. The amount of control they exercise over their congregants and money they require to stay in good standing is astronomical compared to lost other christian denominations. Their propaganda, investment and political arms make them the biggest existential threat to North American democracy and culture as a centralized religious organization.
Not to mention the basis of the faith is that Jesus came to America and your skin color determines if your ancestors were sinners. That’s cuckoo bananas even by christian standards.
Yes well I was really just trying to be funny (poorly) I must admit, good points I’m glad you stated though.
This could impact a lot of Trump votes if not corrected too. I don’t think even he’s so dumb to alienate such a large voter base.
I wish! I feel like they’ll vote Republican until one of their “prophets” tells them heavenly father told them otherwise.
The amount of control they exercise over their congregants and money they require to stay in good standing is astronomical compared to lost other christian denominations.
Wait til you hear about how greedy the Catholic Church was before & during the Reformation. New denomination, same religion. This is just how faiths inevitably evolve.
Also Mormonism—though I hate using this aphorism because it’s not even true—is as American as apple pie, there’s really no threat to be spoken of here in the usual sense of the word. It’s existed for more or less 200 years now, subsisting along with every other facet of its surrounding culture. Mormonism is American society, it wouldn’t have become so widespread without it.
That’s funny, I no longer count Israel worshiping evangelical Zionists as Christian.
mahhh aside from perhaps the Quakers, the rest if 'em. can all go fuck themselves.
It was the fuck aroundest of times.
It was the find outest of times.
yeah we’re like three quarters of the way through that Niemöller poem now
Ha trump administration showing favoritism. That not new btw.
I wish Mormons would be outraged over something that mattered, like the sexual abuse in their church, or the fact their church supporting mormon thieves and scammers across the country, who have stolen over a billion dollars from their fellow Americans.
While sexual abuse does occur in the church, the trick of having the church operate as it does is to catch predators. Similar to how Donald Trump is the orange cop-in-chief, because God and the FBI knows who offered him what.
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Forgive and move on like a good Mormon.
Dum-dum-dumdum-dum
The in-group just got a little bit smaller
There’s plenty of great videos on how this works in fascist circles by people, such as Innuendo Studios:
https://youtu.be/5Luu1Beb8ng?is=YM8DFDYAOYQRNjrn
He has a whole series on the alt-right. Wonderful analysis.
One of my favorite YouTube series. If you’ve got some time, do yourself a favor and watch all of them. There is a playlist on the channel.
Are they YouTube only?
They’re also on Nebula (paid though)
Thank you! I have nebula. I get in the habit of only going to the four or so things I watch, I need to browse around some more.
Not sure, but that’s the only place I’ve seen those videos.
Someone else noted that they’re on Nebula.
That’s how it always goes with fascist and bigots. The in-group gets smaller with each victory until the in-group has no allies anymore.
Well you gotta have heirarchies, otherwise somebody might be promoted for being good at their job
This isn’t even a hierarchy at this point. Not when the goal is to completely exclude the out-group.
A lot a bit. Remember the huge data centers in Utah for spying and government data storage? That’s all staffed by strait laced mormons who can pass a drug test.
First they came for…
my funky underwear?
I’m honestly more surprised that JWs and Christian Scientists are listed under “Christian” than that Mormons aren’t. All of those are considered cults, rather than legitimate denominations, by mainstream Christianity (Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant).
I mean they are all cults, just ones society finds acceptable for some reason.
Wasn’t it the Mormons whose founder got some glasses from an angel, which allowed him to read the bible? Well, that is what I call a fairytale.
And what do you call the Bible then?
If you read the Bible and take everything literally, I cannot help you. I assume, however, that you are well aware that certain parts were intended for different audiences or types of believers. Some passages convey a different message than, for example, the Quran or the Torah. As for the meaning of secularisation and the distinction between „religia“ and „ecclesia“, I’ll leave it to you to look it up on Wikipedia or another reliable source.
Nah I’m good, I’d rather spend my time learning about shit that’s actually real
No prob with that. Keep just in mind that the Bible, especially the New Testament, is to a certain part a parable.
If I recall the original definition of the modern cult vs religion division is just what ever the British crown recognized as legitimate. Lol
Pepsi is a cult. America is a cult. A cult is just a type of network structure around a centralized cultural mission.
Mormonism is definitely a cult, zero bones about it. But the emotional attachment–and the subsequent damage–is very very real.
I live by the location that Mormons believe Jesus will be when he returns. They built a church with a steeple that looks like a massive space ship on that location.
But also fuck Pete Hegseth. They have a right to their beliefs as long as it’s not harming anyone else.
If it’s the one I’m thinking of, that particular building is owned by the Community of Christ (formerly the “RLDS” church) which split from the “official” Mormon organization shortly after Smith was killed. It’s a wild design. I remember learning about it as a kid and being told that it was a “perversion” or whatever.
Either way, it’s all culty bullshit.
Yes! That’s the one! My bf lives by that one and I live by the other monument they built. This one is right in downtown Independence MO, which is also a very low-income area with a lot of homeless people. It’s jarring to see that sticking up amongst it all.
For those of you who don’t know, there are a lot of Mormons in the KC area because some of them believe the Garden of Eden is a short drive north of KC and that Jesus will return to Independence, MO.
I see more Mormon churches in the KC metro than any other religion, although, I don’t know any practicing Mormons myself.
The purity shit they spend massive amounts of money pushing on social media alone is harmful as fuck.
LDS are Smithians
Brighamites, technically. Because the main organization decided to follow Brigham Young after Joseph Smith was killed. The Community of Christ is the one that broke off and reorganized themselves under one of Smith’s kids. The whole history of Mormonism is insane, but morbidly fascinating.
