• BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    do you agree with my assertion that some things are objective facts and some are not?

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      4 days ago

      Yes.

      Not trying to say that everything is subjective, but that in particular is kind of a bad example.

      I just think you’re being dismissive, while setting your own ideas as being apart from philosophy.

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        4 days ago

        i know that any example I could give could be argued against, and I really don’t wanna dive into that because it has no end.

        like I said, the only thing anyone knows for sure is that they’re experiencing something, call it consciousness or whatever. however, that is not a great example of fact vs fiction, and this isn’t a philosophy debate sub, so I tried to keep it simple.

        there are better examples, but I’m just trying to explain a simple concept, not get into the bottomless argument of philosophical truth

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          But you’re explaining it with such a bad example that it undermines the whole point, it’s like if you said, “Some things are just objective facts, like which poems are good.” That to me indicates that it’s not really a simple concept at all, you just don’t see the depth because you haven’t examined it. Being unwilling to examine it, framing that examination as “the bottomless argument of philosophical truth,” only reinforces that. If you’re not willing to examine the question, then don’t assert that you know the answer in the first place.