shrooms can make you more empathetic, but in my case it also unlocked a new kind of depression in realizing that so many who need a change of perspective to see things that way, even for but a glimpse, never will. I felt such love and empathy for others in that moment, and such sorrow that it would never be felt nor returned by the vast majority of others; I understood perfectly in that moment what Edgar Mitchell meant by an “instant global consciousness”, and how we would likely never achieve this state of enlightenment among enough individuals to matter.
Hard to tell about long term effects from DMT specifically because at the time I was taking every hallucinogen I could find. All together permanently eroded the “filmiest of screens”.
Very meh as a drug. No desire to repeat a third time but glad I visited this most alien shore
I understood perfectly in that moment what Edgar Mitchell meant by an “instant global consciousness”, and how we would likely never achieve this state of enlightenment among enough individuals to matter.
consciousness is like a river, it becomes turbulent when things start flowing quickly enough. the abrasive property of living in a society full of change is ironically what makes it difficult to relate to other people’s experience, as it is quite difficult to see the actions in another train’s wagons when the relative movement is too great.
Yeah they can make you feel that way especially if you do them with a tight friend, but in reality you’re still locked into your own perspective.
Maybe if more people believed we could kind of willingly feel it by proxy. Kind of like how mirror neurons let you simulate the other on your own equipment.
There’s actually a shocking variety that induce this, as an amateur psychonaut. Personally, I enjoy LSA for a “lite” version. One can brew it from a particular yellow flower native to the Southwest, but particularly called “mormon tea”.
You could just work on “first shift”, or what in Buddhism is called Fetters 1 and 2. Seeing through the self delusion. No woo-woo required and it’s the first stepping stone. But a big one.Just realizing there is no “me” here, and never has been, helps a lot.
I love this kind of philosophy. I wish it were possible to access it on a tangible level, but sadly it seems consciousness is local phenomena
I’ve heard if you take certain hallucinogens you can…
shrooms can make you more empathetic, but in my case it also unlocked a new kind of depression in realizing that so many who need a change of perspective to see things that way, even for but a glimpse, never will. I felt such love and empathy for others in that moment, and such sorrow that it would never be felt nor returned by the vast majority of others; I understood perfectly in that moment what Edgar Mitchell meant by an “instant global consciousness”, and how we would likely never achieve this state of enlightenment among enough individuals to matter.
And then there’s people like Joe Rogan who take all the psychedelics but apparently don’t realize a fucking thing.
“they’re consciousness expanding drugs, there has to be some consciousness there to expand”
Have you tried DMT?
Twice
Fucking intense
I’ve been seriously considering trying it. How long did the after effects last?
After 45 mins felt basically normal a little run down like hadn’t had my morning coffee yet.
The peak apparently lasted 20 mins. I experienced several cosmic epochs in that period
Any long term effects? Did you love it? Hate it?
Hard to tell about long term effects from DMT specifically because at the time I was taking every hallucinogen I could find. All together permanently eroded the “filmiest of screens”.
Very meh as a drug. No desire to repeat a third time but glad I visited this most alien shore
no
consciousness is like a river, it becomes turbulent when things start flowing quickly enough. the abrasive property of living in a society full of change is ironically what makes it difficult to relate to other people’s experience, as it is quite difficult to see the actions in another train’s wagons when the relative movement is too great.
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Yeah they can make you feel that way especially if you do them with a tight friend, but in reality you’re still locked into your own perspective.
Maybe if more people believed we could kind of willingly feel it by proxy. Kind of like how mirror neurons let you simulate the other on your own equipment.
There’s actually a shocking variety that induce this, as an amateur psychonaut. Personally, I enjoy LSA for a “lite” version. One can brew it from a particular yellow flower native to the Southwest, but particularly called “mormon tea”.
I thought Mormon tea contains plant based Ephedra? LSA is morning glory or Hawaiian baby wood rose seeds, iirc, no?
I might be mixing up my chemistry; I’ll admit, it’s been a decade since I even had access to Mormon tea.
Can confirm that enough magic mushrooms will cause you to see and feel god.
How much until you become one?
eh you can still walk around and talk to other people
And then there’s that. Much harder to do with yourself, if you’re singular at least.
Yeah, but being able to conceive of it is a pretty cool consolation prize at least.
It is :)
Meditation but it would take a while to get there. It is fun to work towards it though.
Yeah meditation is cool. Would be interesting to try doing it more
You could just work on “first shift”, or what in Buddhism is called Fetters 1 and 2. Seeing through the self delusion. No woo-woo required and it’s the first stepping stone. But a big one.Just realizing there is no “me” here, and never has been, helps a lot.