Oh god… Star Trek just got… I dont even know how to describe what had been done to it.
Basically star Trek died after ST: Enterprise
Anything after that was vapid shitty pew pew cgi flare fest sci-fi, and the Picard series ruined TNG for me for years. I used to watch ST at least a few times per week, DS9, TNG, mostly. After ST :Picard i stopped. I couldn’t anymore, it was ruined for so fucking long
But there was a small ray of light, though
Watch “The Orville”, it’s made by Seth McFarlane after he rejected what the execs wanted for star Trek. It’s basically TNG updated for the 2020s and the first two seasons are amazing and have a BOBW episode, even, and hell, even a “family” type episode after. Seriously, it looks and feels like modern TNG, has great episodes like TNG used to have. The third season kinda went the pew pew direction as well, very few very long episodes where the good writing got replaced with loads of CGI, but it’s still doable.
There isn’t a fourth season, yet, anyway, but Seth recently said he is finishing writing the fourth season, let’s see what happens
Those first two seasons though, are star Trek magic, the Orville magic
First, The Orville is excellent and for anyone who watches Trek I always recommend The Orville. It’s a little crude when it starts, but it’s levels out and is really great.
Second, since you didn’t mention it, Strange New Worlds is the modern Star Trek in universe show you’re looking for.
SNW can be ok, but it leans pretty heavy on the action, and the moral quandary episodes are hit or miss to a high degree. I can’t think of a single high concept scifi premise episode of SNW that made me say “Wow.” and stuck with me. The war PTSD episode with the transporter buffer triage was very good, but more emotional and less scifi high concept. And I’ve already seen MASH.
Season 2, episode 2, Ad Astra per Aspera is my go to answer for best episodes that I think about. It’s clearly inspired by TNGs The Measure of a Man while that episode will always be the best, the SNW episode still scratches that itch.
I’ve watched them all, and none of them really felt elevated for me. Ad Astra per Aspera was fine, but I didn’t come away with any new interesting thoughts about anything from it.
Many trekkies said that Trek couldn’t be a Saturday morning cartoon and that after TAS would never survive, there are people who said that after TNG came out star trek was dead because the captain was bald, and some people who said DS9 killed it as a space station was not exploring, then some people complained that VOY killed it because the ship had infinite torpedos and a lot of people said ENT was the franchise’s death knell because touch screens, and OMG what did JJ Abrams do? After DSC came out some people said Star Trek was over because people dont cry in space, After PIC came out some people said it ruined everything that came before because space captains can’t change, some people said that LDS was turning ST into Rick and Morty fan wank, a horde of people said that PRO was trying to be be Clone Wars and that it gave the franchise a terminal diagnosis, it was the consensus of many fans that SNW was shitting on the memory of Kirk and crew, a loud group of trek consumers suggested that there couldnt be female Jem’Hadar and therefore SFA caused the franchise to flatline…
Yet there is more trek in development, that will be loved by some and derided by many
*edit: Section 31 definitely murdered the franchise because Rachel Garrett something something, irish vulcan space robots?
I’m honestly so confused by (presumably) adults who consider Sonic as their favorite media franchise… Just… What?
Have you, like, tried reading books or watching movies since you’ve become an adult, or…?
I don’t want to sound judgmental, but I kind of feel bad for people like this. If you enjoy it, you enjoy it, I guess… But you’re missing out on like actual good shit lol
People who grew up with the games have a certain fondness for the series that even better written franchises cannot replicate.
What’s wrong with people deciding the franchise that made them happy in their childhood should continue making them happy in their adulthood? None of this suggests they haven’t tried or enjoyed better written stories.
You are very judgemental and keeps repeating the same argument I’ve already addressed as to why someone can have their favourite franchise be something that is not the best thing they’ve ever read. I think you need to expand your perspective a lot more about the world. Being so narrow-minded is even more dangerous for modern society.
Maybe it’s the person who’s a grown adult and still considers Sonic the Hedgehog to be their favorite media franchise is he one who needs to expand their perspective.
I want you to be honest, do you actually know what the plots of these games are like?
You could, you know, be less judgemental, especially for something simple like a favourite media franchise.
You’re still refusing to acknowledge my point about why someone would consider it their favourite, and it has nothing to do with not expanding their perspective. It’s you that refuses to expand your perspective beyond your own capacity to understand stuff.
Do I need to care what the plot is like? My favourite media franchise has a pretty terrible plot, as well. It’s not the reason I love it. You seem unable to grasp such a simple concept.
you can enjoy all types of media at the same time. Someone who enjoys Sonic or a franchise of similar caliber doesn’t ONLY enjoy Sonic and nothing else.
my two favorite media franchises are Star Trek and Sonic. how long have you got?
Oh god… Star Trek just got… I dont even know how to describe what had been done to it.
Basically star Trek died after ST: Enterprise
Anything after that was vapid shitty pew pew cgi flare fest sci-fi, and the Picard series ruined TNG for me for years. I used to watch ST at least a few times per week, DS9, TNG, mostly. After ST :Picard i stopped. I couldn’t anymore, it was ruined for so fucking long
But there was a small ray of light, though
Watch “The Orville”, it’s made by Seth McFarlane after he rejected what the execs wanted for star Trek. It’s basically TNG updated for the 2020s and the first two seasons are amazing and have a BOBW episode, even, and hell, even a “family” type episode after. Seriously, it looks and feels like modern TNG, has great episodes like TNG used to have. The third season kinda went the pew pew direction as well, very few very long episodes where the good writing got replaced with loads of CGI, but it’s still doable.
There isn’t a fourth season, yet, anyway, but Seth recently said he is finishing writing the fourth season, let’s see what happens
Those first two seasons though, are star Trek magic, the Orville magic
First, The Orville is excellent and for anyone who watches Trek I always recommend The Orville. It’s a little crude when it starts, but it’s levels out and is really great.
Second, since you didn’t mention it, Strange New Worlds is the modern Star Trek in universe show you’re looking for.
SNW can be ok, but it leans pretty heavy on the action, and the moral quandary episodes are hit or miss to a high degree. I can’t think of a single high concept scifi premise episode of SNW that made me say “Wow.” and stuck with me. The war PTSD episode with the transporter buffer triage was very good, but more emotional and less scifi high concept. And I’ve already seen MASH.
Season 2, episode 2, Ad Astra per Aspera is my go to answer for best episodes that I think about. It’s clearly inspired by TNGs The Measure of a Man while that episode will always be the best, the SNW episode still scratches that itch.
I’ve watched them all, and none of them really felt elevated for me. Ad Astra per Aspera was fine, but I didn’t come away with any new interesting thoughts about anything from it.
Many trekkies said that Trek couldn’t be a Saturday morning cartoon and that after TAS would never survive, there are people who said that after TNG came out star trek was dead because the captain was bald, and some people who said DS9 killed it as a space station was not exploring, then some people complained that VOY killed it because the ship had infinite torpedos and a lot of people said ENT was the franchise’s death knell because touch screens, and OMG what did JJ Abrams do? After DSC came out some people said Star Trek was over because people dont cry in space, After PIC came out some people said it ruined everything that came before because space captains can’t change, some people said that LDS was turning ST into Rick and Morty fan wank, a horde of people said that PRO was trying to be be Clone Wars and that it gave the franchise a terminal diagnosis, it was the consensus of many fans that SNW was shitting on the memory of Kirk and crew, a loud group of trek consumers suggested that there couldnt be female Jem’Hadar and therefore SFA caused the franchise to flatline…
Yet there is more trek in development, that will be loved by some and derided by many
*edit: Section 31 definitely murdered the franchise because Rachel Garrett something something, irish vulcan space robots?
I’m honestly so confused by (presumably) adults who consider Sonic as their favorite media franchise… Just… What?
Have you, like, tried reading books or watching movies since you’ve become an adult, or…?
I don’t want to sound judgmental, but I kind of feel bad for people like this. If you enjoy it, you enjoy it, I guess… But you’re missing out on like actual good shit lol
Edit: hurr durr gotta go fast!
Heaven forbid an adult should enjoy video games. It’s also possible to have a favorite franchise and read books, including outside of that franchise.
Prole, why do you always have so many hot takes?
People who grew up with the games have a certain fondness for the series that even better written franchises cannot replicate.
What’s wrong with people deciding the franchise that made them happy in their childhood should continue making them happy in their adulthood? None of this suggests they haven’t tried or enjoyed better written stories.
It kind of does though. They said it’s their “favorite media franchise,” not just that they were a fan.
It’s for literal babies
And I have a problem with it, because it’s not a rare thing and it demonstrates a lack of curiosity that I find to be dangerous for a modern society.
If the video game for babies that you played when you were 10 is still your favorite media franchise, then you need to expose yourself to more media.
You are very judgemental and keeps repeating the same argument I’ve already addressed as to why someone can have their favourite franchise be something that is not the best thing they’ve ever read. I think you need to expand your perspective a lot more about the world. Being so narrow-minded is even more dangerous for modern society.
Oh no I’m judgmental whatever will I do.
Maybe it’s the person who’s a grown adult and still considers Sonic the Hedgehog to be their favorite media franchise is he one who needs to expand their perspective.
I want you to be honest, do you actually know what the plots of these games are like?
You could, you know, be less judgemental, especially for something simple like a favourite media franchise.
You’re still refusing to acknowledge my point about why someone would consider it their favourite, and it has nothing to do with not expanding their perspective. It’s you that refuses to expand your perspective beyond your own capacity to understand stuff.
Do I need to care what the plot is like? My favourite media franchise has a pretty terrible plot, as well. It’s not the reason I love it. You seem unable to grasp such a simple concept.
you can enjoy all types of media at the same time. Someone who enjoys Sonic or a franchise of similar caliber doesn’t ONLY enjoy Sonic and nothing else.
They said it was their favorite media franchise, not that they enjoyed it.
Have you ever seen the “plot” of a Sonic game? If you’re an adult, and that’s your favorite media franchise, then you should be embarrassed